Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows::Go native or go home: End of servicing plan rolled out for legacy printer drivers in fresh update

    • topinambour_rex@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      If you can print without installing hp software, yes.

      I been amazed by epson. Bought an ecotank, with scanner and use it through the network. I didnt had to install epson software for use either the printer or the scanner.

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        Doesn’t that mean they just need to move their bullshit into the printer firmware rather than in their driver bloat software?

        Or if they decide not to use the standard drivers and keep things customer-hostile, maybe their printer won’t work at all without their own software package.

        I’m in the Brother laser printer gang, so I don’t know how egregious they are with this stuff already.

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          Depend which bullshit you mean. If you mean the no ink no scan, yes they can move it to the printer. If you mean the you stop the subscription, we disable your cartridge even if they aren’t empty, it will be difficult.

          If the user uses usb, the printer will face the microsoft owned driver. If you uses it through lan, it will be able to communicate with HP’s servers.

          Then I guess, it could be done through usb too, like sending settings to the printer.

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            Maybe they could require a wifi connection back to the mothership before the printer itself will do any printing. Or just say fuck it and ship their printers with wifi/ethernet only.

            Hopefully the consumer market wouldn’t let them get away with that crap, but on a technical level I have to think there are so many ways to mess with it. Just look at all the other enshittification going on around us.

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              They could do it, just removing usb port. I dont doubt they will find a solution. Who knows maybe they will just bribe Microsoft.

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        ? there’s nothing about this that would stop the hp no ink no scan thing. the drivers just talk to the printer/scanner, the scanner can still refuse to do things if it wants to.

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      1 year ago

      No.

      – According to the article, it’s just removing them from Windows Update. Microsoft doesn’t want the hassle. Vendors could still make you use them

      — I like the description of a new printing standard Microsoft will directly support, but since it’s owned by the vendors, they can probably require customer-hostile “features”–

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    So Microsoft is no longer sending third party printer drivers thru Windows Update. You’ll have to download the drivers yourself from the manufacturer, or hope the printer supports PCL/PS generic drivers (which they all should, but often don’t).

    If your first response is “but Linux”, remember that PCL, PS and TXT drivers are the majority of printer support in Linux, seconded by the HPLIP driver.

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    To be clear, the end of servicing applies to drivers provided via Windows Update. Manufacturers will, according to Microsoft, “need to provide customers with an alternative means to download and install those printer drivers.”

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    So what does this mean for my old laser printer dating back to the early 2000s? Will I not be able to use that anymore?
    It’s still perfectly functional, so it would be a bit of a shame and a waste of money to have to replace it.

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      from the article:

      "To be clear, the end of servicing applies to drivers provided via Windows Update. Manufacturers will, according to Microsoft, “need to provide customers with an alternative means to download and install those printer drivers.”

      so no, this is click bait for what amounts to a nothingburger

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    For a moment I thought this was a great decision. Forcing printer manufacturers to use single protocol and unifying the whole thing. But naaah, Microsoft just doesn’t want to deal with it.