Hi! Question in the title.

I get that its super easy to setup. But its really worthwhile to have something that:

  • runs everything as root (not many well built images with proper useranagement it seems)
  • you cannot really know which stuff is in the images: you must trust who built it
  • lots of mess in the system (mounts, fake networks, rules…)

I always host on bare metal when I can, but sometimes (immich, I look at you!) Seems almost impossible.

I get docker in a work environment, but on self hosted? Is it really worth while? I would like to hear your opinions fellow hosters.

  • beta_tester@lemmy.mlEnglish
    35·
    10 months ago
    • Podman solves the root issue
    • you can inspect the stuff. You don’t have to, but it helps if you’re not paranoid with popular and widespread images
    • I have no mess

    It’s great that you do install things on bare metal, I did that in the beginning until I discovered docker and I will never go back. Docker/ podman compose is just so good

    • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteEnglish
      24·
      10 months ago

      you can inspect the stuff. You don’t have to, but it helps if you’re not paranoid with popular and widespread images

      Dive is a great tool for inspecting docker images. I wish I found it sooner.

    • QuikxSpec@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Do you have a preferred resource? I’m setting up my NAS and starting to prepare for setting up containers. In the meantime it’s just static storage until I get comfortable

    • Shimitar@feddit.itOPEnglish
      27·
      10 months ago

      Need to study podman probably, stuff running as root is my main dislike.

      Probably if in only used docker images created by me I would be less concerned of losing track of what I am really deploying, but this would deflect the main advantage of easy deploy?

      Portability is a point I didn’t considered too… But rebuilding a bare metal server properly compatimentized took me a few hours only, so is that really so important?

          • beta_tester@lemmy.mlEnglish
            22·
            10 months ago

            Unfortunately I do not have a source but to me it was like podman would replace docker as the container technology since red hat focuses on podman and not docker anymore and kubernetes doesn’t support docker anymore. Transitioning obviously takes ages because of companies being very slow.

            • N0x0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              I hope you’re wrong… With RH’s recent choices in regard of FOSS… I really hope podman won’t replace docker. Specially in the self-hosted/FOSS community !

              • beta_tester@lemmy.mlEnglish
                1·
                10 months ago

                What’s wrong with podman?

                It’s still many many years away. Just think about there being still fortran or assembly code

                • N0x0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Probably nothing, I have never tried it… but docker compose feels so comfortable right now and relearn everything… uuhhg !

      • null@slrpnk.netEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        But rebuilding a bare metal server properly compatimentized took me a few hours only, so is that really so important?

        Depends on how much you value your time.

        Compare a few hours on bare metal to a few minutes with containers. Then consider that you also spend extra time on bare metal cleaning up messes. Containers don’t make a mess in the first place.