Something that i find prettyd disgusting these days is how certain people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives, for example, celebrating the russian invasion of ukraine because it is “a blow against US / NATO imperialism” completely ignoring all the warcrimes, the deaths, and the suffering generated by that war, the same happening with the palestinian genocide because “Israel is the only working democracy on the middle east”, acting like their ideoligies are going to bring back to life all the dead people somehow

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    8 months ago

    Name one example from the past 110 years where war actually achieved the goal the “good guys” had before it started.

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        8 months ago

        World War 2 didn’t prevent the eradication of the Jews in Europe, though.
        Only a few thousand who didn’t manage to flee survived.
        It also didn’t prevent the destruction of an entire generation of men in the Soviet Union.
        It didn’t bring about lasting peace, nor democracy. At its end, the next dictatorship was already on the rise.
        Oh, and it killed 85 million people, 3% of the global population.

        Any alternative result of non-intervention would have to be really fucking awful to be worse than that.

        Desert Storm

        So the goal of the coalition was that Kuwait is ruled by a dictator the US liked instead of one they didn’t like, the Kurds were massacred and millions of them displaced, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled from Kuwait and a budding popular freedom movement in Iraq crushed by Saddam Hussein?

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          8 months ago

          The goal of World War 2 was to expel an invading army from occupied countries. The goal of Desert Storm was the same. Desert Storm didn’t overthrow Saddam, that was years later in the Iraq war

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            8 months ago

            If that was truly the goal, then 85 million people died over which man is in charge, and nothing else.
            No, expelling an army is always just a means to reach your goal, cause the army stands between you and control over the people.

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              If that was truly the goal, then 85 million people died over which man is in charge, and nothing else.

              I mean yes. What are you saying it was about?