• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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        I don’t see what this has to do with the fact that China utilises slave labour from a religious minority group they are currently genociding to aid in their construction and manufacturing sector.

        To my knowledge, you go to prison in the US when you commit a crime, as opposed to a labour camp where you are sterilised then made to build Fords under threat of death.

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          you go to prison in the US when you commit a crime

          Gotta keep’em prisons profitable…

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          America also uses slave prison labour

          And America has more incarcerated people than China, despite China having way more people.

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            No…just no. China’s prison population is not counted correctly, just from their forced reeducation camps, its estimated they have 1-2 million people in them. The usa has around 1.2 million in prison. So no china does not have less prisoners. I don’t know where this bullshit lie showed up but it’s been repeated way to long.

            Does the USA have a problem with incarcerating people for non-violent offenses, hell yes, but that’s a whole different argument.

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              China is also much larger than US. Even with your fantasy numbers US has more prisoners per capita.

              America is a authoritarian nation. You guys just killed a guy and several bystanders over a 2.9 dollar fare ffs.

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                Lol @ fantasy numbers…only a tankie would think that.

                Yea we have problems, but acting like china is better is hilariously wrong.

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            Ok, putting aside for a moment China’s totally honest and not at all fudged number of incarcerated people…

            The US allowing prison labour is something I’m disgusted by.

            But it’s still a far cry from abducting people based on their religion, sometimes sterilising them so they can’t have kids, threatening them with their life, threatening their family, and forcing them to work in factories or in construction, then using that slave labour to undercut and kill foreign competition.

            Don’t try to twist this into a “you’re complaining about China therefore you think the US is great”. I’m saying China is far worse. Because they are, and only a complete muppet would think otherwise.

            Maybe you’re ok with what China does (slavery and genocide), but I am not.

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              Everything you accuse China of, the US is guilty of the same or worse. How many people in the US are in jail for the crime of being black?

              I never said China is great. They are horrible. The US is just worse.

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                  this is how most americans react to being told that they are an authoritarian country.

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                    Not American. You’d think my spelling would’ve made that obvious.

                    And lmao at thinking China isn’t hugely more authoritarian.

                    Stop with this tankie nonsense. Genocide is bad. Stop defending it.

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        There’s no way in Hell a country with a population in the billions has lower incarnation numbers than one with a few hundred million. That is just statistically impossible. It all comes down to what you count as incarnated. This is like the US “solving” its unemployment crisis by not counting people who think about maybe looking for work sometime as not unemployed. These numbers are self reported, so they should be taken with a big grain of salt.

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        Because China executes at a rate 100x the US, that we know of, believed to be 1000x.

        No person, no prisoner. --Stalin

        Also, Tibet and Xinjiang.