We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

    • Otome-chan@kbin.social
      7·
      2 years ago

      citing a shitty dictionary doesn’t change the facts. loli does not refer to an age. no matter how much you wish to cry and try and say it does.

      • nude@kbin.socialOP
        12·
        2 years ago

        Hey, if you go out of your way to find dictionaries that support your world view of naked pictures of kids thats up to you bud, more power to ya

        • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          2 years ago

          Attacking people doesn’t really help your point. Might want to think about that for a moment before replying like that.

        • Otome-chan@kbin.social
          5·
          2 years ago

          I don’t need a dictionary to know how to speak english. loli/shota are well understood words in the weeb community. they don’t refer to kids.

          also, I don’t look at that kind of hentai lol. but notably: loli/shota do not refer to nsfw things. there is sfw loli/shota pics and nsfw ones.

          I have a hunch you’re probably fine with actually illegal porn though while outcrying about this perfectly legal stuff.

          • nude@kbin.socialOP
            8·
            2 years ago

            If you want to be daft about the situation, more power to ya bud.

            Its clear in context what the implication of allowing that content is, being contrary isn’t going to change anything

            • Otome-chan@kbin.social
              4·
              2 years ago

              their ruling is independent of the fact that the words loli and shota do not refer to children. I went to go look for the announcement post (since it wasn’t linked) and it talks about content that isn’t necessarily synonymous with loli/shota. in the post they explicitly say that they aren’t allowing minors/children.

              you’re throwing a fuss about adults.

              • nude@kbin.socialOP
                4·
                2 years ago

                Post title

                We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content

                I’m telling people who don’t want to see pics of naked kids that this particular instance is cool with that.

                You’re defending that instance.

                I’m not throwing a fuss bud

                • Otome-chan@kbin.social
                  3·
                  2 years ago

                  I haven’t said my view on their ruling lol. Though it says in the post they ban underage content. so it’s all fine yeah?

                  my issue and reason for commenting is twofold:

                  1. defederation should not occur unless extreme circumstances (illegal content that will lead to kbin being shut down)

                  2. loli/shota do not refer to minors and it’s important to clarify that fact.

                  IMO it seems obvious to me that they’re talking about allowing adult loli/shota content. which is entirely legal and fine and has nothing to do with minors. I don’t see an issue with this.