We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

  • Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
    13·
    2 years ago

    I don’t think everyone would think of that as ‘drawn child porn’. Plenty of live action ‘school girl’ stuff out there and that usually gets a pass. Pretty much every amateur video is implied to be incestuous now, are they promoting having sex with school kids and incest?

    Terms like ‘barely legal’ and ‘young teen’ are used all the time, do you think there aren’t people out there imagining those girls being younger than 18? If some Loli drawings are where you draw the line then it seems like an odd place to do so. Does nothing for me personally, I prefer drawings of young boys misbehaving, swearing and defecating /s (South Park).

    • nude@kbin.socialOP
      7·
      2 years ago

      I’m not here to argue about the nuance of drawn pictures of naked kids.

      I don’t care. Lemmynsfw can do whatever they want.

      The point is there is going to be NSFW instances, and im:
      a) warning people not interested in that shit that lemmynsfw is not the place to go, and
      b) asking if there are any other alternatives

      • Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
        8·
        2 years ago

        In that case a simple ‘What are the best NSFW instances?’ would have sufficed perhaps with a line stating that you don’t enjoy hentai / loli. You cared about the nuance when you called it child porn despite knowing the actual genre is ‘loli’.

        Big difference between something not being your cup of tea and full blown child porn accusations. I might not enjoy someone sending me an eggplant emoji but I wouldn’t call the police and say I’ve just been harassed by a drawn picture of a purple cock.

        Hope you find an instance to your tastes and I hope you can get your questions answered in future without feeling the need to incite a mob.

        • nude@kbin.socialOP
          3·
          2 years ago

          No, I’m warning people who don’t want to see pictures of naked kids that the instance is cool with that content.

          Hentai isn’t the issue. The issue is

          We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content

          Most people don’t want that. If you do, more power to ya bud

          • Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
            2·
            2 years ago

            Nice straw man. Hope you can find the actual IRL underage content you’re looking for rather than just drawings. See how that works?

            • nude@kbin.socialOP
              1·
              2 years ago

              Where is the straw man?
              Warning people who dont want underage content on their feed?
              Directly quoting the announcement title?
              Saying most people dont want that content but if you do good for you?

              Literally none of those are strawmen

              • Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
                1·
                2 years ago

                Well… we’re talking about some manga drawings which might just look like Funko pops with breasts to some but you decided to instead say that we’re irrefutably talking about ‘pictures of naked kids’, a massive oversimplification which makes your argument look stronger.

                ‘if you do then more power to ya bud’ to make it sound like I enjoy that content despite the fact that I’ve already said that it does nothing for me. A misrepresentation of my position.

                That’s what makes it a straw man argument in my opinion.

                Anyway thanks for the debate, I haven’t followed on with what happened in the rest of the thread and really regret engaging with it in the first place. Sorry if I offended you, it’s hard to get points across via text sometimes and I probably came off a bit strong.

                None of this really affects me as I don’t use Lemmy for NSFW content, I like the platform though and don’t want to believe that it would be used for underage content so I guess we pretty much agree where it counts but came at it from different angles.

                Peace and love

                • nude@kbin.socialOP
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  Yea look, I got a bit heated about it and I sincerely apologise for that.

                  Im glad I brought it up though, enough people have been pissed off about the decision that they seem to have taken a hard 180 on the topic, so alls well that ends well for the time being.

                  And yea I agree there are always different angles, and with so many people moving to a new platform for different reasons there is always going to be some butting heads.

                  Im just worried that the fediverse is going to take a turn and be overun by edgelords like what has happened with so many “reddit alternatives” in the past.

                  Anyway, peace and love for sure my dude/dudette