We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

  • Otome-chan@kbin.social
    6·
    2 years ago

    Hi, I’m an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor. Should I just not be allowed to date and have relationships with other adults?

    • Hanhula@kbin.social
      9·
      2 years ago

      Hi, I’m an adult woman who also looks pretty young! There’s still a huge difference between how I look now in my late 20s and how a prepubescent child looks! These things are false equivalencies. Stop trying to justify this shit.

      • Aeonx@kbin.social
        2·
        2 years ago

        You say prepubescent child - pubescent children are still children, anything to do with a real child under the age of consent is a child. If you are an adult that looks like you are under the age of consent, should you not be OK with your sexuality? I struggle with my sexuality because people mistake me for a teen, but that is my hang up and I would not condemn others for embracing their body. Unless - are you suggesting that it is only bad if it resembles a prepubescent child?

    • gmtom@kbin.social
      4·
      2 years ago

      If you can’t tell the difference between a small adult and an actual child, you have major issues.

      • Otome-chan@kbin.social
        2·
        2 years ago

        my thoughts exactly about people who are anti loli. if they can’t tell the difference between a small anime adult and an actual anime child, you have major issues.

        • gmtom@kbin.social
          4·
          2 years ago

          Except that argument doesn’t work with anime because it’s not real people, hence why some people draw characters that are 2000 year old vampires 5hat just so happen to look exactly like an 8 year old girl as a way to try and get away with it.

    • geoffervescent@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      Of course not. But if you date and have relationships the other people involved understand the context exactly. If you started sending random nudes of your “I’m an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor” self to strangers, how what would the context be.

      Now of course NSFW animation is harmless. But you can understand the worry for 1000s of normies who click and the first thought they have is “Fuck is this CP? what am I looking at? I need to reevaluate my website choices.” if they have zero reference points from life or culture except what’s illegal tabboo and disgusting in their culture.

      The great thing about the Fediverse though - there will likely be an instance where a vast majority share your opinion and can connect to all the same instances from an 3rd origin point instance.

      • Otome-chan@kbin.social
        1·
        2 years ago

        If the concern is “normies seeing”, then perhaps a suitable compromise would be to hide such content from the front page by default? so that only people who explicitly subscribe to it can see it?

        I’m an advocate of “curate your own experience”. I don’t want to see half the fucked up nsfw shit people post, yet you do not see me crying over defederating instances that host it.