• FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    I would not object to a law banning establishments from requesting tips before service has been provided.

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      2 years ago

      They shouldn’t request tips at all. Tips only should be provided if a customer feels like the service was above and beyond normal.

      • Jo@readit.buzz
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        2 years ago

        That’s not true in the US. They have a tipped minimum wage; there, if you’re not tipping you’re stealing someone’s labour.

        It is a sucky system, as the buried lede in that article shows:

        However, data from the very checkout system that prompted tipping revealed disparities in pay. Neitzel noticed that Black employees were earning less tips than their White counterparts.

        But, until it is burned to the ground, that is the system and (in the US) you should not use it to exploit people.

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          Technically the employer is stealing their labour, the customer is paying the advertised price in a perfectly legal exchange.

          If the staff don’t like this, they need to unionise and fight the employer to pay a proper living wage.

        • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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          engaging with tipping culture effectively means enabling said culture

          not to mention that employers in the USA still have to match up to the federal minimum wage if tips dont add up to the federal minimum wage

          ‘if you dont tip they dont make minimum wage!’ is effectively bullshit

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          Some areas in the US have tipped minimum wage. Some areas have an actual minimum wage that is paid regardless of tips. Don’t accuse others of exploiting people when it is truly the employer backed up by the local state law. Blame your state and do something about it.