Just to be clear, I do think the obvious solution to terrible things like this is vastly expanded public transit so that people don’t have to rely on cars to get everywhere, not overhyped technology and driving aids that are still only marginally better than a human driver. I just thought the article was interesting.

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    Bicycles do pose similar dangers. A cyclists running a red light it the typical example. Forces someone else to swerve and hit a post then what?

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      Cyclists on the whole break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.

      Also, I love how your only example of “the dangers of cyclists” involves someone in a car having to react to a cyclist. If everyone is cycling, speeds are low enough to react and typically avoid collisions even if a potential conflict arises. The “forces someone to swerve” phenomenon mostly happens at the speed of motor vehicles.

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        Cyclists on the whole break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.

        That’s utter bullshit, I see them running lights all the time. And riding in groups, clogging the whole road, like they’re on the freakin’ tour de France.

        You should know that it doesn’t take “motor vehicle speeds” to cause a (serious) accident. And I suspect you do.

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          I wasn’t talking about people on group rides, I’m talking about people using bikes as a means of transportation. I agree that people in group rides can sometimes be bothersome road users.

          Red lights and stop signs are designed for cars and it’s honestly stupid to expect cyclists to treat them the same way. Studies have shown that treating stops as yields when on a bike is safer for all road users.

          You should know that it doesn’t take “motor vehicle speeds” to cause a (serious) accident.

          That’s not what I said. I was pointing out how your “swerve into a post because a cyclist ran a red light” is a dangerous situation made possible only by the presence of cars.

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            Red lights and stop signs are designed for cars and it’s honestly stupid to expect cyclists to treat them the same way.

            About time you should your zealotry. Or trolling.

            made possible only by the presence of cars.

            Cars on roads? Oh no! Yeah I’ll go with trolling.

            Cheers.