This affects all browsers and not just Chrome, as the media falsely reported it. Mozilla just rolled out a fix, and Brave is looking into it. This bug is likely related to the “zero-click” iOS 0day that was reported by Citizenlab last week.

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      The only reason I know what webp is, is because its “that dumb format” that doesn’t play like a GIF in Signal.

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        Well at least it’s not a gif, because gifs really suck at animations.

        The quality is really bad because of its limited color and the file sizes are enormous because animations are just a series of images after each other without any compression or optimisation between them.

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          There is optimization. Every frame in the gif can define a rectangle it’s drawn in on top of the previous image. This works fine for reduced color animations (like cartoons), but of course breaks completely for videos.

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            Well, that’s something at least. I wonder how common its usage is.

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          Pretty much, people stick to an ancient format from the stone age and then bitch to people who want to change it.

          Get ready to be called names if you say the truth.

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      Fucking hate that shit, I have to screenshot it when sending to the group chat cause it won’t upload webp.

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      now whilst i know why people like webp, maybe we could stop using formats owned by google…

      until jpegxl becomes viable (which it mainly isn’t because it compete[s/d] with webp), lets stick to nice formats not owned by tech giants, like apng?

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        Problem is, it takes a huge brand like Google or Apple to push a new format for something basic like images. Do you know how many alternative image formats exist that have tried to be the next jpg/gif/png? Hundreds.

        I just really wish people would stop clinging to these old formats, especially gif. Maybe when the tech giants get some traction with webp, more open alternatives can get popular as well, once people realize that jpg and gif aren’t the end of everything, and app developers get off their fat asses and start supporting other formats too. It just needs to start somewhere.

        Just like ogg probably wouldn’t be a thing if commercial mp3 didn’t pave the way, or we probably wouldn’t have divx/h264… without Real Media and Quick Time. Signal wouldn’t be so popular either without the likes of Skype and Viber.

        Of course I’d prefer open, free standards from the start, but you can see how fucking lazy people are (both users and developers) to support new formats.

        That said, it’s not like webp is closed or anything, so I’m ok with it.

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          jpegxl actually has pretty good support - affinity, photoshop, gimp, krita, etc. all support it fine

          it’s only chrome/electron that’s holding it back (even firefox supported it until chrome dropped support). i don’t think it’s lazyness

          i have no love for gif (hence i use apng), but all the other alternatives are either videos so show controls by default, not widely supported, or webp. i realise webp is objectively the better format for most things, but i still argue it’s existence is a net negative effect

          webp may be open (although actually i’d argue it isn’t, the licences for the decoder and the format itself are both very woolly), but as it’s actively contributing to enshittification by holding back truly open formats i’d say that doesn’t really matter

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            jpegxl actually has pretty good support - affinity, photoshop, gimp, krita, etc. all support it fine

            Sorry, 5 graphics programs isn’t “support”. You need support from the millon mobile apps, web sites and image and web libraries. A format that you can only use by yourself or with a handful professionals is useless in practice.

            Ed: look at the list of formats supported by XnView

            holding back truly open formats i’d say that doesn’t really matter

            There’s been hundreds of new image formats in the last ~20 years, and none has gotten anywhere.

            Even PNG needed a decade for some things to support it properly, and that one really had a brand new massive use case.

            People use gif to make videos for crying out loud, and bitch about webp all the time, that’s how massive the pushback against new formats is.

            Do you really think jpegxl would get anywhere by itself? No, it would be the same as with jpeg2000 and tons of other formats - first supported by a handful of programs, but not used by anyone else and then forgotten.

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              Sorry, 5 graphics programs isn’t “support”. You need support from the millon mobile apps, web sites and image and web libraries. A format that you can only use by yourself or with a handful professionals is useless in practice.

              i gave those because they’re the most pertinent programmes for people dealing with creating & editing images. there are mobile (or at least android) libraries; and web is the issue i’m talking about - it’s hampered by chromium. there are more here if you’re interested.

              and i’d say that’s not bad for a format that’s only a few years old

              Ed: look at the list of formats supported by XnView

              i don’t know what this is supposed to mean. xnview supports jxl

              There’s been hundreds of new image formats in the last ~20 years, and none has gotten anywhere.

              because png is good. i’m not defending gif or jpeg, they suck. but png is simple, fast to decode, and open by design. there have been better formats, but not paradigm shiftingly better. it may not be the best as an image format, but it is good

              Even PNG needed a decade for some things to support it properly, and that one really had a brand new massive use case.

              yeah that’s my point, jxl has been adopted faster than png or webp (it was only officially standardised in 2022!)

              People use gif to make videos for crying out loud, and bitch about webp all the time, that’s how massive the pushback against new formats is.

              i really don’t think many people use gif. most people use gifv or similar (usually webm) without realising it. apart from its very specific use case, gif sucks; so most software automatically converts to something else

              Do you really think jpegxl would get anywhere by itself? No, it would be the same as with jpeg2000 and tons of other formats - first supported by a handful of programs, but not used by anyone else and then forgotten.

              jpeg2k had issues other than a lack of support - jxl has deliberately avoided those pitfalls