• 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Anyone against FOSS adoption of LLMs is straight up a capitalist fascist

    They love the AI ethics issue, it’s so vague and morally superior that they can use it to shut down anything they like.

    The letter warned of an “out-of-control race” to develop minds that no one could “understand, predict, or reliably control”

    And this is why people who don’t understand that LLMs are essentially big hallucinating math machines should have no voice in things they fundamentally do not understand

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      1 year ago

      You might be able to assert they are full of shit after hearing the arguments. Accusing them of being fascist for not agreeing with you is extremely intolerant and authoritarian aka facist.

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          1 year ago

          the thing is that you don’t want to become the thing you are fighting. you can be right in every case, as long as it’s in a case by case basis. it would be different if you explain why the arguments are bad faith arguments or why they are facists, that is also perfectly fine.

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            There are things that are just true like that, like racism or slavery don’t have a case by case basis where they’re bad, but that’s getting to be an extreme comparison here, just saying absolute statements can be true like that. When is FOSS not about freedom?

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              this seems a bit more complicated than the examples you share where things are more evident. even if they are wrong, they can be wrong for reasons other than them being facists.

              edit: to show some nuance, would people not be against open software that is purposefully crafted for a nefarious purpose? be it ransomware, or software for a DIY automated blinding laser weapons? I know UN would probably not like the second example, regardless of it being FOSS.

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                regardless of it being FOSS

                Exactly, it’s not about it being FOSS. It’s about the nature of the software itself. Being against that software doesn’t make you anti-FOSS. Additionally, open sourcing your malware is actually helpful for people trying to combat it.

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        1 year ago

        I think it’s pretty valid to point out that somebody who is against free software in the XXI century has a strong authoritarian posture.

        Granted, the use of “fascist” might be incorrect (mainly because it’s a quite specific autoritarian ideology and it’s hard to, for example, find indications in this that the guy supports other elements of it such as hypernationalism) and the word suffers from overuse in a sloganized way (i.e. it’s commonly parroted in a mindless way), but in this case it’s not a bad shortcut to pass the idea.

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          1 year ago

          I think using that term is fully regressing to tribalism. I believe that in some cases we can reach the goal by building consensus with the opposition. I’m sure we can see the world with more than 1 bit of resolution.