I dunno, I was up and running in five minutes. You pick an instance, you sign up, you verify the email, and you’re good to go. What server doesn’t matter much, barring it closing unexpectedly and without warning. There’s not enough users to need more than a handful.

It would be nice if employees would revolt as well. But I’m not ever going to push someone to risk their ability to support themselves when what’s going on is legal. This isn’t a government entity. It absolutely, 100% is not the same as nazis. That’s so hyperbolic as to be absurdist. The scale just isn’t remotely the same.

Besides, ranting at whatever admin desk jockey gets the shitty task of processing these copy/paste memos and dealing with the responses isn’t going to convince them of anything. Neither will rational arguments. They’re doing a shitty job, and either agree with him (meaning nothing we say has a point to begin with), or disagree and are having to face dissonance while trying to make a living.

The ones that disagree, if they’re handling this stuff, they feel like shit. I’ve been there, doing a job that I know isn’t right because of the way the company insists it be done (I worked in nursing homes at one point). That shit eats you up inside. They need, and deserve, a bit of kindness.

That’s what people forget online. That’s the ugly side of the internet in general, and reddit in particular. It it so hard to remember the human. Huffpig has decided to stop pretending he ever did, but that doesn’t mean we have to act like him.

I’m not even a nice person tbh. I’m old, I’m grumpy, and I have very little tolerance for stupidity. But I try to be better. And if we don’t all at least try, we are collectively fucked. Empathy is the key to doing better. Compassion is part of empathy.

Besides, if that admin was to ever, ever consider their role in this, don’t you think it would be kindness that would make them practice empathy and compassion? Kindness is just as contagious as cruelty.

It would be nice if employees would revolt as well. But I’m not ever going to push someone to risk their ability to support themselves when what’s going on is legal. This isn’t a government entity. It absolutely, 100% is not the same as nazis. That’s so hyperbolic as to be absurdist. The scale just isn’t remotely the same.

Besides, ranting at whatever admin desk jockey gets the shitty task of processing these copy/paste memos and dealing with the responses isn’t going to convince them of anything. Neither will rational arguments. They’re doing a shitty job, and either agree with him (meaning nothing we say has a point to begin with), or disagree and are having to face dissonance while trying to make a living.

The ones that disagree, if they’re handling this stuff, they feel like shit. I’ve been there, doing a job that I know isn’t right because of the way the company insists it be done (I worked in nursing homes at one point). That shit eats you up inside. They need, and deserve, a bit of kindness.

That’s what people forget online. That’s the ugly side of the internet in general, and reddit in particular. It it so hard to remember the human. Huffpig has decided to stop pretending he ever did, but that doesn’t mean we have to act like him.

I’m not even a nice person tbh. I’m old, I’m grumpy, and I have very little tolerance for stupidity. But I try to be better. And if we don’t all at least try, we are collectively fucked. Empathy is the key to doing better. Compassion is part of empathy.

Besides, if that admin was to ever, ever consider their role in this, don’t you think it would be kindness that would make them practice empathy and compassion? Kindness is just as contagious as cruelty.

Rats are smart, cute, and (when not living in gross places) very clean.

So, yay rats!

It’s all about fucking with them. Yeah, they can pull the plug at any time. But the longer it drags out, and the more of their own rules they have to change/break along the way, the worse position they end up in.

Fuck spez, don’t make it easy. Make them play the heavy. Make them do it in a way they can’t pretend is justified.

Just say the same thing I said when I got this at r/knives. Fuck spez.

Legit, start one. I haven’t seen such a thing, but if you start it, you have the chance to shape what the community will become. There’s an awesome thing :)

You can, it’ll just be a struggle.

If you stand firm, you can get enough people to recognize that there are viable alternatives, and once you hit a decent number of friends and family, it takes over on its own.

Don’t forget that reddit has the ability to astroturf themselves. Some of those are sock puppets. Others are a coordinated effort by accounts that have never used the subs they’re bitching on before.

Check the user history of some of those. They fit the standard bot pattern

“Hi, I’m sorry, but we charge an extra api fee for reddit employees”

“You have an api for a coffee shop”

“Yeah, its the Asshole Prevention Insurance, since the ceo is a giant, gaping asshole that likes to spew his filth all over things, and we want insurance that nobody from there does the same thing.”

Oh, you just don’t know the right crazy people.

A quote from someone I know irl, “he’s lucky I don’t live there. I would find him and curb stomp his albino hamster looking ass”.

But even the craziest people I know haven’t suggested that kind of thing about employees.

He’s the one that has to worry about a project mayhem castration, not the employees lol.

I wouldn’t fault them as much if they hadn’t dumped the capital into absurdly dumb things to try and become facebook. If they’d invested it into better reliability and reducing costs to operate, I’d have a ton of sympathy.

I dunno, the way they’ve (board members, ceo, admins involved in trying to spin things, etc) been acting, it’s pretty obvious they don’t want the engaged, active users back. They want to turn it into an ad server and user tracking hub like facebook.

Maybe if they can spez, build a new board of directors, and walk back everything they’ve done totally, I might be willing to use it passively but directly (as in reading things there via my app of choice, but not interacting) rather than only indirectly via search results when the only hits are there.

That ain’t gonna happen. If they don’t do that, my last act will be to find replacement mods for the places I’m responsible for, and then I’m gone totally. I’d have done it already, but I’d have to use reddit to recruit anyone at all, and I’m not willing to do that until the protest is over.

Hell, I’ve thought about just doing enough mod actions that admins would have to break their own rules to oust me, and leaving them locked. But I don’t like shitting on communities of people just because the site has gone to shit.

Reddit still pulls things to r/all, even if what’s there is some abandoned sub. It’s why some subs went restricted instead of private, so they can make posts about the protest and the issue behind it that will still be surfaced.

A lot of newer users don’t bother going past r/all, so there’s going to be some activity constantly since not everyone knows what’s going on.

Hell, I made three posts about it all on r/edc, and I’m still getting people asking why they can’t post. I’m not moderating during the two day blackout at all, but I get the notifications.

Which is fine. The protest has never been about getting people to stop using reddit. It’s about the moderators standing up and making the point that it’s the users and mods that made reddit worth anything to begin with. And it was. Reddit side? The admins that handled day to day activity helped a ton when they could, but reddit beyond that was just servers and software. Without content, that’s useless.

How does one use this?

As lame as it is, YouTube and word of mouth.

As much as I hate Google, YouTube’s discovery suggestions usually work for me. Offline, one of my high school buddies fronts a sludge/stoner metal band but is one of those deep diving metalheads that’s always checking out new stuff. He’ll send me links, or come by with a cd or thumb drive of stuff to listen to while we fart around. That’s pretty much it lol

I took r/edc restricted yesterday, though we are/were tiny. While I still plan to find replacement mods from within the community after reddit goes full dipshit, I’m done ring their work for free, with shit tools, next to zero support, and (worse, imo) taking a lot of flak from admins because of bullshit unrelated to moderation.

I dunno if lemmy is going to become the reddit replacement or not, but I’m done with giving reddit anything at all. Overwrote and deleted everything from my author account that had some decent amount of fiction, and my personal account that had a lot of real stories from my life. That ain’t much, but since I’ve seen my stuff being read on YouTube, and reposted by the copy/paste bots, it’s something I guess.