“I would think stepping down has some risks at the moment because you don’t know who’s replacing you”

You could literally give an notice to the Reddit admin or whoever you are in contact with that you disagree with the way they handle things, that you are gonna step down but would like to pick your replacement personally.

Reddit would likely agree because it means that they don’t have to search for a mod themselves and if the mods have such a strong connection with the community than finding a replacement should be in the realm of possibility.

The whole striking saga gives a whole lot of “We tried nothing and we are all out of ideas” vibe.

“And that’s the thing: The community. You do not spend several years modding a subreddit without getting to know the people and having some sort of relationship with them. The community is not an abstract, it’s people you get to know - often over several years - and that’s not something you want to leave behind.”

Who is asking them to leave it all behind?

The only way you can be part of a community is by being a mod?

If mods are feeling as wronged by Reddit as how they say they feel, why not resign as a mod and just join the community as a member?

I mean you would still be part of the community you say they hold so dear but in a different capacity.

“A clear example of “probably not, they have an actual reason to want to stay in power” is r/askhistorians, where you probably don’t want random people replacing people with lots of historical knowledge on a subreddit specifically about history that only allows informative replies complete with a works cited.”

Call it what you want. It is power tripping or having a sense of superiority or higher self for whatever reason.

Since when is Reddit the beacon of all that is right in regards of information? Why not pack up and start an community somewhere else?

Reddit is just a medium and nothing more.

The problem I have with these statements and the course of action overall is the following;

Why even protest? The most ironic thing should be that r/AskHistorians should know of all people what happens with mutinies or strikes that have weak or no resolve.

Why would you even strike when you would fold by the first sign of friction that is coming your way?

Just again, keep modding your community and ignore everything but don’t act like they are so very wronged and need to have some sort of sympathy when they are literally happily providing labor…for free.

For example:

2 months ago there were strikes in my country regarding distribution centres of one or the biggest supermarket chain in the country.

In these distribution centres are working around 5500 people and 2700 of them are “migrant workers”.

Quoting the union;

“The temporary workers in the distribution centers are almost all migrant workers. Hundreds of them have joined the strikes. That is special and very courageous, because they are in a weaker position and are often put under pressure to keep working.”

The end result?

“After months of negotiations and eleven days of strike, the Union has achieved a result with the supermarket group. In it, salaries will increase by 10% and austerity of the Sunday allowance is off the table. Temporary workers also get more certainty about their schedules.”

They fudging won big time.

“the mods decided to revert the NSFW designation because the community is a helpful resource for veterans experiencing mental health crises. The mod said that if Reddit removed the team, it could put the community at risk.”

Bitch fudging please.

Please tell me again how these people are not power tripping their eyes out.

Imagine having no Reddit community to fall back on or having different mods into your community… The horror!

Can these people;

• Stop acting as if they really want change to happen.
• Just start to bent over further for Reddit.
• Get on with their life.
• Admit that they really like their little power trip.

Because RIF and Apollo were hugely popular.

Reddit wants to give you the faint idea that you have a choice instead of actually having a choice.

A cornered animal who sees 1 way out isn’t as unpredictable than a fully cornered one.

Reddit is almost 20 years old now?

Do you expect Lemmy and Kbin to be an immediate replacement or an replacement at all?

My thoughts when people still want to strike on reddit;

People are way to shortsighted to see how it can affect them as well.

The amount of “I don’t use 3rd party apps so it doesn’t affect me” comments were very noticable.

These changes and the ones that Reddit will implement to rail the userbase even harder will affect the people one way or the other at some point.

Keep on with not using reddit.

They can pound sand for all I care.

I use(d) it to follow 1 guy for updates about my favorite sports team and transfers etc.

But he introduced a new site (today) and is actually gonna quit the platform to go to twitch or somewhere else, so i’ll say goodbye to another social media account after today.

Reaffirming of what?

That twitter is a walking corpse?

My timeline is full of bots, spam and trolls and it looks like it gets worse with the day.

If Spez likes that future for Reddit then sure.

“Meta and met with them after signing an NDA”

This should tell quite enough.

Nothing as spiteful as a Redditor done wrong

I registered and got through yes.

I registered just before the influx of users from reddit I assume and I am gonna be honest I didn’t put in a full essae.

I think Beehaw is a great instance who shows what the Fediverse can be and is about.

I love that they actually shout out 1 of the instances instead of Lemmy or Kbin as a whole.

“I regularly get called a power-hungry mod by the crybabies who get angry when they aren’t allowed to break the very clearly stated rules, and repeat their offenses after getting first, sometimes second warnings. They run to other places and go try to stir up other crybabies to come and cause the same kind of trouble.”

Isn’t there something about this in the rules/code of conduct or something?

I’ve seen the vitrol that mods get called on the daily.

Why isn’t Reddit taking concrete action against this?

I see it as Reddits obligation to educate the community about moderators and what they do on the daily.

It is in their best interest to of course not do the above because otherwise moderators may actually feel like an important part of the eco system.

And Reddit would not like that.

“Do you think Reddit cares? Honestly.”

My post says what I think. Of course they don’t they haven’t cared for the better part of 8 years. It’s why I ran PDS and stopped with using Reddit as of this week.

“But there are people who need these little rest stops. They need a place to post a picture of their Mickey Mouse balloon, or their engagement photo in front of the castle, or their debate about what on earth the writing on some poster says. It makes them happy and there’s a whole blossoming community there, of happy people in a safe space.”

You know that Reddit will use this as leverage whenever they can right?

“We’re just some stupid, terminally-online folks who need to touch grass. Doing unpaid labor for an abusive place that doesn’t care. All to make some little virtual people on the other side of a box (who also hate us) happy.”

Why would you even talk about yourself like that?

If it wasn’t clear I am hardcore in the moderator camp.

I would not be a moderator even if you would glue me to a chair and threaten me to mod or I would be forced to watch every season of seinfeld in that same chair. I absolutely despise seinfeld.

You are literally the gateway between the community and Reddits pockets. Why do you think that Facebook pays a buttload of cash for their moderators.

I come of as harsh maybe, but for some reason I feel like I care more for the moderators then the moderators do for themselves.

You should be proud of the work you do and the shit you take on the daily.

Sorry if I come on strong, but believe me it isn’t to dunk on you or the moderators in any way, shape or form.

I am probably way to invested in this part of the saga so I will stop posting about this part at all.

I show enough consideration because of my post where I go deeper into the whole situation. I also used to be a part of the communities in Reddit.

You are missing my point.

If you really want change you should know what that would entice and what that would bring.

If you just wanted to posture and get brownie points then the 48 hour blackout was perfect for doing something without actually doing something.

But humeur me; How is this beneficial for the community in the long term?

What has Reddit shown that it cared about its communities and moderators over the years?

It does prove Steves point though; It all will blow over and people will bend the knee.

The motives of the community and Reddit do not align in the slightest.

I do not understand these posts at all.

It sounds like that you are just not interested in building a new community and rather go back to the ivory tower that is reddit.

If that is so just say it.

What are you gonna do when Reddit is gonna implement the next thing that would be unbeneficial to the community?

If you know that the possible new mods are asses, why not call reddits bluff?

Let them see what good moderation is about and what happens when you don’t care about the good moderators for years.

You are probably afraid that a new mod team would do just a good a job as you and you will be forgotten after a day. Then of course what would be all this for if change wouldn’t happen? Other questions you are asking yourself can entice; Is my moderation position really that hard to take over? Are the changes really affecting me?

You are probably afraid losing something that you put your own time and effort in and the idea that someone would ruin it or just take your place is a situation you are not ready for. I would understand all that but then why black out at all? Rigorous changes after 48 hours only happen in Disney movies, you should know that.

Sorry to say but most of the community does not give a damn about moderators and you know it. They care about the content that is provided to them that is what they are hooked on.

This only shows that Reddit has full control over you and your actions and they can do whatever they want to whomever they want because you will bulge the first second they threaten to take your moderations position away.

For the life of me I cannot understand why people would gladly be providing money in Reddits pockets, while the community and moderators don’t see a penny, don’t see any user improvements, get constantly lied to, while getting bend over on every turn.

I am gonna say this again; I thought moderators actually got paid by reddit. I was baffled when I heard a few days ago they weren’t. I thought and still think it would be absolutely ridiculous to invest your time and efforts for a profit making company for absolutely nothing in return.

In the meantime Steve huffman is spitting in your and the communities face every step of the way, not caring about you or the community at all.

I have a whole lot of respect to the people who gave up their mod positions just to make a stand for themselves.

I really don’t mind if subs stay open, if you like to moderate be my guest. If you don’t agree with the blackout, sure.

But the posturing about the greater good for the community, just don’t.

Steve is such a savvy businessman. Cancelling revenue sharing arrangements with (a) 3rd party app(s) which benefit your company.

I cannot wait how steve talks himself out of this one.

This is the most damning thing so far.

Calling 3rd party apps freeloaders while at least 1 of them was paying their fair share for 4 years.