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They hate’us cause they anus.

An echo chamber for calling CA liberal? That’s just well documented reality my guy.

You don’t care about US politics, which means you probably don’t know much about them. So it very much seems like you’re speaking about something you don’t care or know about. Then when I, a person who does very much care about US politics, chimes in with insight you call it an echo chamber.

Honestly, it seems like you want to just say whatever you like and then rant and dismiss anyone who knows the topic and pushes back. Ironically, that sounds exactly like how an echo chamber works lol.

Yeah, controlling the town square. It’s worth him sinking money into it if he can get favorable tax laws passed as a result.

Of? Companies leaving CA due to liberal laws? That’s kinda been CA’s thing since forever.

Ok, and what else? I mean saying it happens all the time and listing one doesn’t really prove the point.

That was super bad, and bad things like this do happen. Just saying it’s all the time seems like it’s really hyperbolic.

You see CrowdStrike level of bad all the time? Where? What? Who?

It’s the new block chain or NFT hype, they think it’s magic.

The irony is companies are being forced to implement it. Like our board has told us we must have “AI in our product.”. It’s literally a solution looking for a problem that doesn’t exist.

The word “can” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. A lot of things “can” have negative effects.

Most companies, mine included, try to roll out updates during the middle or start of a week. That way if there are issues the full team is available to address them.

I use eM, it has tons of options and the mail rules are next level.

https://www.emclient.com/

Ok Bud, gold medal mental gymnastics lol

Ok now spend years of your life and your money making a thing that everyone just gets for free instead of paying you for. See if you feel the same way then.

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They nearly all used, your inability to understand how they’re used does not make it less dangerous. I’ve sat here and spoon fed you information over and over and you are at the point of asking for anecdotal evidence. You’ve shown yourself to not be knowledgeable about the subject at all, but fully willing to act like you are lol.

According to the market. That’s how reasonable prices are arrived at. It’s this little thing called an economy.

I’m not saying stealing is OK, I’m just being realistic. If you charge $200 a month for Netflix people will steal it. You can get upset and rant all you want, that’s reality. People refuse to be charged more and more for the same thing, there is a breaking point.

Also, it’s not stealing. This argument has been had and proved false. The large number of people who pirate content are very unlikely to have ever paid for it. It’s not stealing vs buying, it’s pirating vs never watching. The outcome of pirating or never watching is the same to the creators.

Right now I pay for Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max and Sunday pass. I’m paying for plenty. You’re just too ruled by your emotions to have an actual conversation, so you make wild assumptions and throw insults instead.

urgh, there are no NEW vulnerabilities in an old OS that does not get updates. What you are for some reason conflating (or using semantics) is newly DESCOVERED vulnerabilities.

Jesus, so you’re saying there will be no new ones made, now that is semantics. A vulnerability never discovered might as well not exist. But guess what you’re also not getting, fixes for all those vulnerabilities. So your stance of “you get no updates, but you also don’t get new vulnerabilities” really means “new vulnerabilities will continue to be discovered but you’ll never get updates for them. They will just be published and known by all, like a guide book on how to pwn you.”

The same argument can be used for current OSs (here from that same site as you provided:

Not it can’t, what are you talking about? New OSs get updates to address these issues. An old OS never has them addressed, but known by the world, which is a huge security risk.

Just please show me one report of some home user in the last 5 years who was a victim due to an out of support OS.

If you need an anecdotal instance of a home user (totally ignoring businesses for some reason) then you don’t have any concept of how these attacks work. Do you remember bleeding heart? Remember how it was used for years and never know? Hell “CVE-2022-22047” was only 2 years ago, and that was an elevated privileges attack, that could take down a whole company.

But ok, you need one that effects home users. How about this one: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-23697

It allows printer jobs sent to the home PC to run any code they would like. This means pulling info from your PC or monitoring it.

or this: https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2022/05/guidance-for-cve-2022-30190-microsoft-support-diagnostic-tool-vulnerability/

You’re correct. Theft has nothing to do with the economy.

Ummm theft, aka shrink, is very much a part of any business.

Hiring theft prevention is an entire field of work around this very concept. How can you say theft has nothing to do with the economy when there is an entire industry around theft prevention…

It doesn’t matter what they charge when everyone steals it for $0.

You missed the part where people stop stealing if the price is reasonable. It’s the reason why pirating went way down when Netflix first came out. People are willing to pay, not be taken advantage of. Are you not reading these comments, people saying they will pirate if there is another hike? There is clearly a line, if they cross it then they lose customers.

You said there would be no new vulnerabilities. https://mander.xyz/comment/4923077

“On one hand yes, no more updates. On the other hand, no more new vulnerability and day 0 exploits.”

You said exactly that.

Also these are not all found by white hats. And those vulnerabilities are what is used in an attack. Those are the tools and gaps being exploited. And that list always grows. I’m beginning to think you don’t understand security well enough to be making these claims.

Lol no. That’s not how an economy works. When you sell less of a thing you then have to adjust price to make it favorable again. Companies aren’t just going to say “If we can’t charge $350 a month we might as well just turn off this massive money machine.” No, they will charge $200 and accept making less money over making no money.