I administer a tenant today that has given me plenty of understanding.

You’d never be able to tell. If this is true your “understanding” doesn’t show but I’ve seen some very dysfunctional organizations so I wouldn’t be surprised.

I am aware of telemetry, yes.

Even if we ignore your continued conflation of Word and Microsoft 365, I suspect you have nothing to support your assertion that Word transmits the content of your document files to Microsoft.

Realistically this whole exchange is moot. A medical providers use of patient data management software in no way constitutes a “release” of data to that software provider as the person I originally replied to seemed to think.

Perhaps you’ll have an opportunity to administer a tenant someday and that’ll give you a better understanding.

So I am not being willfully ignorant. I work with both daily.

Then you’re just being ignorant.

O365, which is actually Microsoft 365 now, is a suite of productivity software as well as collaboration and cloud-based services.

Word is a word processing program. They are not the same and use of Word does not equate to O365.

You should know this. Just like you should know that a business using a piece of software, such as a medical facility using Epic’s patient data management tools, does not equate to patient data being “released” to Epic.

Since you seem to be struggling with the concept perhaps a different example would be easier for you?

Just because you get an MRI doesn’t mean the data collected for the MRI is “released” to GE.

What was surreal to me is the doctor is telling me this and I couldn’t wrap my brain around it. I wanted to argue. I’ve heard “diet and exercise” for so long it was like a conditioned response kicking on.

Apparently overeating/obesity has been categorized as a chronic disease since 2013. I was just talking to a weight management doctor who was explaining that there’s actually hormonal responses that differ person to person that play a huge role.

I want to show some love to B&H Photo. They’re one of my go to’s specifically for tech stuff.

I feel like people give up on in store if they can’t find it at a big box store and go to the online equivalent of a big box store (Amazon).

Anybody who puts in a little effort should be able to find a specialty store either in person or online.

I wasn’t having a discussion with them or you however when you present incorrect information or are intentionally obtuse I will call it out.

If you want to engage me on the original topic I can happily explain both how the concept that a medical provider is “releasing” data to a software vendor is wrong and how equating O365 and Word is wrong.

I imagine you’re too busy finding ways to be offended on someone else’s behalf and making light of recent terrorist acts though.

It does, your willful misinterpretation doesn’t change that.

I looked through your post history, you seem to have at least enough technical aptitude to understand that.

released to companies like mychart

What does this mean? MyChart is a software solution used by many medical providers. They don’t “release” medical information to them.

This would be like thinking someone using Office on their computer is “releasing” documents they create to Microsoft.

If they would have spent the same amount of money

They did spend the same because they were getting the deal phones from their provider. You’ll have to bear in mind this switch was about 10 years ago.

I think what you’re saying contributes to why this Android/Apple discussion is still going on.

The level of Android device varies based on cost affecting the experience. If you buy an Apple you don’t have that issue because all their devices run relatively the same and are expensive. They don’t have a “cheap” option.

because having access to iMessage - and now right-colored bubbles - is a big part of why Americans go Apple to begin with.

Do you have something supporting this? I was the only iPhone user in my family years ago, now everyone in my family has one. They switched because their Androids were slow, buggy and had issues. Over time they decided to try iPhones and now their perception of iPhone is that it just works better and smoother than Android.

I think some go Apple for status, but still others go with it because they’ve personally had a better experience. For older people there’s probably also an element of support from their younger family. If their kids, grandkids etc. have iPhones then they can get help from them because they’re familiar with the device.

I use an iPhone and many other Apple products because I work in IT. I get tired of troubleshooting other people’s tech issues and I can come home and my Apple stuff all just works. I don’t think it’s the best, I actually have a Windows gaming computer and an Ubuntu box as a home server but the Apple ecosystem works well together and means I’m not still wearing my IT hat at home all the time.

The teen bullying is a social problem but it’s not that different than Starter jackets when I was in elementary school, branded sports apparel (particularly Nike) when I was in middle school, and having a pager when I was in high school.

I don’t really care what color the bubbles are when I send messages, as long as the go through.

I totally agree and understand the use case. That plays into that more in depth type of self hosting most here do. All I have is storage via Synology, and Pi-hole, smart home controls and a media server in separate containers.

My use case is strictly QoL improvements that my wife would either just live without or switch to a more conventional, easy to use setup for her.

I don’t self host to the extent many here seem too but I have had the same thought and joked with my wife about it.

Ultimately everything I’ve setup I’ve done in part because it’s my hobby and it interests me. When I’m gone my family will revert to whatever they’d normally be doing without me, because they don’t have interest in it like I do.

That’s always going to be a problem for early adopters of new tech. Plus, since it’s automotive you’d run that risk with the first model year or two after a major redesign too.

If what Rivian has reported is true it’s not really a failing of the equipment but human error. That’s always going to be tough to account for, though there’s likely improvements to be made to their testing methodology before pushing to prod.

I thought the Rivian vehicles were still drivable? It was just the infotainment that’s impacted, no?

Ok 👍

It’s always a possibility of a hardware issue but I take that risk with any piece of equipment. My experience with my Apple products has been great! Obviously everybody’s experiences are different.

My first Apple computer, a 2011 MacBook Pro, is still running and used regularly by my niece and nephews. The few times I’ve needed Genius Bar help on hardware it’s been fixed or replaced free of charge.

Totally get that some people haven’t been as lucky and don’t like Apple or their products.

My experience is that it does run better however, depending on your media file types and player, plus if you’re sharing externally, memory is important.

Most of my content is in a format all of our playback devices can use so no transcoding typically but I share externally with extended family. I upgraded from an old OptiPlex running Windows with 16gb of RAM to an Asus Mini computer to reduce power consumption and have a better processor to support more streams.

No matter which OS you use, I’d recommend running in containers.

I’m in a similar position but reversed. I’ve worked in various levels of support, almost always on Microsoft systems.

My home setup for automation, streaming media and containered apps is Linux. For personal everyday use I use a MacBook Air.

I’m in the Apple ecosystem because it just works, I don’t have to tinker like I do with Linux, or fix some random new bug or issue like on Windows.

I will say, in 5ish years when my Air starts to lag I’ll probably replace MacOS with Linux and rock that until I absolutely have to replace the hardware. Then hopefully the Framework type setups have grown and I’ll be able to go with something like that.

Isn’t the app on Apple devices called Messages? I thought iMessage was the name of their e2ee internet messaging protocol.