I use brave and think it’s the best browser available, so I’m not arguing against it or anything, but technically it just supports use of the onion protocol, it does not provide the same full suite of protections that the tor browser does

As Brave says themselves:

For users who currently require leakproof privacy, we recommend using the Tor Browser, which provides much stronger and well-tested protection against websites or eavesdroppers using advanced techniques to uncover a true IP address.

https://brave.com/tor-tabs-beta/

just so you know, Mozilla vpn is just a repackaged mullvad vpn, they’re partnered

for real though… as an American I would love if we were 11 years behind the EU in lots of other areas

I’ve barely used mine. I just didn’t think through what use case I’d have for it and bought it since it was cool. I don’t travel much and I usually only want to game when I’m home anyway, where I use my main gaming rig. I thought I would use the deck in bed, but I find that it’s not as enticing as I thought it would be

been meaning try and sell it while it’s still got some value tbh, it’s basically brand new even though I’ve had it for nearly a year

yeah I agree. I’ve noticed a real decline in quality too. I think it’s because the entire site is just bots reposting old content and bots commenting old comments

I wish I did this. I went to check if there were any signs of the protest and couldn’t help but contribute to one of the “fuck spez” signs

I then realized that place already felt kind of overdone last time they did it, this time it just feels completely meaningless

FYI, there is a way to use ReVanced Manager to import your own API key into baconreader and other 3rd party apps:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14o9avv/3rd_party_app_support_for_reddit_using_revanced/

nvm

Thanks for the understanding and reasonable reply. I also appreciate the thoughtful discussion.

I don’t even dislike Firefox, I have it installed on my PC and my phone alongside Brave. And I don’t think Brave is completely undeserving of criticism either, just not to the extent that it is portrayed at large.

Vivaldi is not fully open source, Brave Browser is.

there is no reason to switch from Brave Browser based on this article, it’s not even about Brave Browser, its about Brave Search, and nothing in the article affects users in any way or gives any reason to switch from Brave. Not to mention half the article is retracted now that Brave responded.

The author has no idea what they’re talking about. It’s just a website owner complaining about Brave Search having a summarizer feature so you don’t have to read through 20 paragraphs to get to the important info on websites, same as Google and DDG’s Featured snippets/quick answers. It’s not even shady, it’s a useful feature.

they can’t hear you over the sound of their firefox circlejerk

just a few counter points:

• brave is open source too

• AI copyright precident has not been set by courts, there is no precident for any of this. i don’t see why this is such a big deal you’d stop using their search.

• As a pirate, I think copyright law is bullshit anyway and holds us back as a species. Most copyright law is outdated and stunts creativity and innovation

• most people only care if it affects them. which this does not. it is relevant because that is how people operate if they’re not virtue signaling

• there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. every large organization does some shady shit. Brave in comparison to most hasn’t done anything to warrant such a huge campaign against them. maybe some criticism, sure.

• I meant brave is the only good alternative to Google. all the others have terrible results. Brave is almost as good as google

• and I’m not defending a corporation, I am just tired of Firefox fans jumping on any small thing and making a mountain out of a molehill to try and save their dying browser market share

• also no idea why you think I’m angry about this. I’m just annoyed at the constant Firefox circlejerk/astroturfing campaign

Don’t let the Firefox fanboys cloud your judgement with their constant shilling. Most of the claims in the article have been retracted after Brave responded, and the issue didn’t affect users anyway.

Also, Brave is a completely independent search engine now, which is why they have web crawlers like the guy in the article is complaining about. And speaking of a distributed crawler, Brave Browser has an opt-in feature for that where sites you visit will be indexed by Brave Search.

Brave Search is the only real contender to be an actual competitor for Google Search, but these Firefox fanatics have such a hate boner for Brave they just want to see it fail. All of their arguments against Brave really aren’t serious and don’t affect users at all.

Brave had a thing where if you went to website.com, they would add /ref=brave to the URL so they get a kickback as if you clicked on their referral link.

Sneaky? Sure. A huge scandal? I don’t think so. No user data was being collected, no privacy was being violated. If I was the company doing the referral system I’d be mad, but as a user, it does not affect me at all.

Firefox fanatics just need something to point to and say “brave bad firefox good” and that is the worst thing they can find on Brave. It’s all browser wars to them, like iPhone vs Android or Xbox vs Playstation.

The article in this post also does not affect users in anyway, and has been updated after Brave responded, with most of the worst claims of the article now retracted.

Every single one of these Brave “scandals” are so irrelevant and meaningless. I was hoping the reddit hive mind wouldn’t be brought over to lemmy, but here we are.

This article, especially after the update from Brave, seems like a huge nothing-burger. Just another excuse for the Firefox Fanatics crowd to rag on Brave and circlejerk each other about how good Firefox is.

The article isn’t even about Brave Browser, and it has nothing to do with user data. The website owner is mad that Brave Search is crawling their site and using data in their “Summarizer” feature. I thought Firefox users were supposed to be against the Google internet monopoly, but apparently when it comes to one of the only companies with their own independent and actually decent search engine, they don’t seem to care anymore because of stupid “Firefox good brave bad” browser wars nonsense.

tech people get annoyed at the weirdest shit…

I can’t believe I forgot the discussions tab! that is a super awesome feature. especially now since it works on all sorts of forum sites, not just reddit, since that’s gone to shit

I love brave search. I think it’s way better than DDG. and that’s not even considering their summarizer feature. it’s basically autotldr for your search

The death of the old internet continues…