Shhalahr

One of the primary reasons Reddit cited for its API rule changes was LLMs profiting off its data for free.

Its data? Seems to me that most of that “data” was actually generated by users. Which Reddit, in turn, profited off for free.

Exactly the point.

Yeah, I recently made a reference to /r/CrabsEatingThings in another thread. Where the hell do I go for such oddly specific content now?

Downturns in quality always take a bit of time to have an effect. Sites coast on momentum. Sometimes it takes a user a while before they decide the site just isn’t as interesting as before. Sometimes a user might be optimistic that the quality will return and stick it out. Eventually, those user numbers will see a bigger dip.

Of course, when it comes to corporations and finance, it seems all the power players ever care about are the short term. What gets them into next quarter. Most of them are going to be long gone and working on something else before the real damage kicks in.

So, yeah, you’re right. All spez cares about are the numbers. But unless they can pivot this whole enshittification process, those numbers are likely to look different in a few years. Though that only matters if you actually care about Reddit and not just making as much money as quickly as possible.

Yep. Numbers alone aren’t what are “significant”.

“Alright. Compromise: We only kill half of you.”

So what rules are they breaking that you’re reporting them for?

Painting Reddit as a monolith in general is a problem, too. “Reddit is toxic?” Some subs, sure. But certainly not the ones I subscribed to. Some of them might have had bad actors here and there. But they were usually dealt with by the mods.

In the end, the only toxicity that drove me away from Reddit was the toxicity from the CEO.

Reddit probably didn’t make the API for RPAN available to third parties.

Not if they’re using ad blockers.

So someone did some math and figured out that the award system was unprofitable somehow?

Don’t know how that works out.

Or maybe they are willing to take the hit because they are embarrassed when posts and comments criticizing Reddit get a ton of awards? (Plenty of people already have a large cache of Reddit coins, so handing out an award is not necessarily paying anything to Reddit at the time of award.)

Do it. Show your true colors, Reddit.

Why would any third party dev want to return after Reddit so thoroughly killed any trust they have?

Why would third party apps return? Reddit has lost their trust in a manner that I can’t see them recovering.

Exactly. We can’t trust them to act in good faith.

To me, the argument for accepting Meta into the Fediverse goes beyond gain and loss. If you run an Internet service, you have a moral obligation to make a good faith attempt to interoperate with anyone using the protocol as intended.

But that’s the thing: We don’t trust that Meta will be using the protocol “as intended”.

It’s an ongoing shit show, and given the migration, it does affect us. So it is worthwhile to keep an eye on it.

Plus, many of us Reddit refugees cared about the communities we participated in. Even if we don’t care for Reddit as a company anymore, we do care about the communities we left behind.

Same here. Cancelled the day the blackout started as sort of a personal statement. Not that I expect that statement to be heard by anyone.

CEO Steve Huffman told me in an interview last week, “90-plus percent of Reddit users are on our platform, contributing, and are monetized either through ads or Reddit Premium. Why would we subsidize this small group? Why would we effectively pay them to use Reddit but not everybody else who also contributes to Reddit?”

It’s called a “loss leader,” Steve.

Dude’s sounding like the kind of guy that cuts IT, security, and janitorial because they don’t bring in revenue. But then, he did say he’s following the Musk model. Which is, basically, that.

“I learned it from you, Spez! I learned it from you!”