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No user of Reddit is powerless. Every single user of Reddit has the power to fuck with Reddit in whatever legal way they want, and they also they have the power to quit using Reddit.

He’ll be remembered for breaking rules yes, but he won’t be remembered “as an innovator”.

I bet this will be very expensive though. It will probably be years before it costs the same, or less than, regular meat.

Meta is a capitalist social media company and they seem to be doing okay. Facebook might be uncool with the kids these days but it’s still massive. And Instagram and WhatsApp are still very popular.

I think the difference between Meta and Reddit is that I bet Meta would issue some sort of apology and carefully crafted PR if they found themselves in Reddit’s current situation. But Reddit doesn’t even seem to care about angering its users, which just feeds the anger more.

Here’s a link to the same post on Teddit, an alternative front-end to Reddit, to read the same post:

https://teddit.net/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/14f7bbg/poll_vote_on_the_future_of_bestofredditorupdates/

Viewing it this way means you’re not giving Reddit traffic.

Is there actually a particular rule against turning SFW subs into NSFW subs?

Or is Reddit just desperately trying to interpret their rules in whatever way they desire because they’re panicking at losing revenue?

It’s just manipulation of course. They’re trying to guilt-trip mods into doing what Reddit wants. Reddit’s concern here is obviously not for the poor innocent users being deprived their access to these subreddits. Reddit’s concern is maximising the amount of cash that flows into their pockets.

If Reddit actually cared about the users then they would respect the subreddits where users have voted to keep the subreddit private or change the subreddit to NSFW content. But Reddit is not respecting these votes from users, because they only care about the cash flowing into their pockets.

Reddit’s response to everything over the last week or however long it has been:

“Fuck you, we don’t care about you, we want to line our pockets, we literally think of users as dirt, we expect you to bow down and kiss our shoes”

The chart here shows 37,000 active users for Lemmy, and this chart here shows 45,000 active users for Kbin.

And if the recent trend continues then those numbers should grow.

There are these:

• https://kbin.social/m/football
• https://lemmy.world/c/football
• https://lemmy.ml/c/football

The most popular of those seems to be the one on lemmy.world (accessible from Kbin at https://kbin.social/m/football@lemmy.world)

I was going to suggest that maybe a large group of mods could stop moderating until changes are made. Because Reddit would have a hard time replacing all those mods quickly, I would’ve thought.

But then, are changes from Reddit desirable at this point? They’ve shown just how determined they are to make themselves richer at users’ expense. The best thing is for Reddit to fail at this point, I think.

The bots have started.

This is the same as me. When I first read about this issue I thought “fair enough if Reddit wants to charge for their API, they have server costs to pay”. And I didn’t use 3rd party apps.

But their behaviour since then is what makes me not want to use Reddit anymore. They clearly have no intention to treat users or mods with respect. When users are voting to close their subreddits, Reddit is forcing those subreddits open, because Reddit only cares about lining their pockets. They’re ignoring democracy when it suits them, despite the CEO saying he thinks Reddit should be more democratic (because he thought users would vote out the mods - the outcome he wants). He clearly never cared about democracy at all.

I mean sure, every business ultimately cares about money, but most businesses are smart enough to not treat their users like crap. Most businesses recognise that you have to respect your users to at least some degree if you want them to keep using your services. Reddit seems to have completely forgotten that.

Kbin’s /m/soccer seems to have some activity: https://kbin.social/m/soccer

You should be able to read/write to it from Lemmy. Since you’re on Lemmy.ml, this link should work: https://lemmy.ml/c/soccer@kbin.social

Reddit: “we will make up whatever rules we want, whenever we want, so that we can keep funding the payments on our BMWs”

Normally, companies try and implement changes in their product in a diplomatic way, but I guess Reddit never got that memo.

They might keep those users more engaged with this new app though. The Twitter format might be more successful for facilitating outrage and arguments than the Facebook format is.

And more engagement means more adverts shown and thus more revenue.

Turn it into an NSFW subreddit, as others are doing, because then Reddit can’t run ads on the subreddit.

Also, their whole spiel about subreddits being for users, who you are letting down, is obviously a crock of shit. They care about one thing only - money. They care about being able to continue financing their BMWs, because God forbid they have to ride the bus.

Apparently Reddit is now switching these new NSFW subs back to being SFW.

My current view of Reddit is that I hope they crash and burn.

People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities

What really amused me is when Reddit sent messages to moderators saying things like “your subreddits are public spaces which users depend on, so you should open them”.

When obviously what they mean is “your decision to close your subreddit is hurting our revenues, and if I don’t keep up the payments on my BMW then I’ll be forced to drive an old Honda, so either open the subreddit or we will forcibly do it ourselves”.

Well, going outside is a good thing.

But if you still want online conversations then Kbin/Lemmy/Fediverse seems to be a viable ecosystem for that. Apparently Lemmy now has 370,000 users and Kbin has 43,000 users.