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  • Yeah sorta. First you gotta know what the problem is, good luck getting the average user to figure out the UI looks off because of the padding. Then you gotta know where and how you need to change it to make it better.

    Customizing is cool for power users that like to fiddle with their settings, however it can’t replace good defaults; not that I have anything against the defaults in this case…






  • With Gnome reducing customizability

    If you’re expecting more customization from cosmic I have bad news for you…

    having 5-year old bugs never get fixed

    Bugs aren’t prioritized by age.

    breaking necessary extensions every update

    Gnome breaks every extension on major updates, this is by design to force the extension maintainer to make sure their shit works with the latest version.

    moving off gnome was was warranted

    I strongly doubt any reason you cited was the linchpin for Cosmic moving off Gnome. It’s probably simply that they want more control and to do things their way. Gnome is a project that has thousands of people involved, with plenty of diverging opinions; getting stuff to change to fit your wants is gonna be an uphill battle each time.



  • The problems come when you don’t support anything other than rust. Higher level languages are better suited for trivial applications. Rust isn’t exactly a very popular language either so you’re not going to attract contributions from random Joe #3. Cosmic’s best hope is to attract the attention of the big players and get enterprise support, because random users just don’t give a shit about the security upsides of Rust and will judge the DE solely based on its looks and features.


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    I think this rust only thing is gonna screw them on the long term. You really don’t want that for app development, it might be a good choice for low level stuff and security sensitive things like browsers; but other than that you’re severely hampering your contribution sources and increasing the development time. Color me skeptic but I see this going the same way unity did.







  • Fedora is pretty much vanilla GNOME.

    They have minimize and maximize buttons ootb iirc. And probably a bunch of other stuff I can’t cite off the top of my head. Arch is the one that has vanilla gnome.

    And yes, pretty much all users install third party apps.

    I think you have a biased view of an average user. Anyways we’re getting off topic. The original argument being that tray icons are not relevant for most users. You have yet to cite a good example where the tray icon is necessary for the app to properly function.


  • Okay but the comparison was about GNOME vs KDE, not "GNOME modified with 5 extensions and tweaks

    Yeah each distribution has their own patch set. If you really want to compare you need to start with the most popular, ubuntu and fedora.

    Also, most users will want to install third party applications. Your average gamer will likely install Discord and Steam, both of them use a tray icon.

    The two examples you gave are definitely not most users. I’d be surprised if it were even 20%. And the tray icon isn’t necessary for either of them to work correctly. Most people use the computer to open the browser.