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  • thanks for your detailed answer :) So it’s really just another “Solution in search of a problem” kind of deal, since the whole concept “decentralises” a conecpt that is already decentralised (BitTorrent) but with a little Cryptocurrency because of course it has Crypto.

    Now I just need to find out what Piped does with it, since all it’s content is supposed to be on YouTube, right? So searching for content can’t be it’s purpose… I think.












  • Just wanted to add that part of this may be a culture thing. Here in Germany, you are required to get your employers permission to get a second job or the like. Many of you might instinctively find this corporate BS, but in reality it’s mainly worker’s protection. No employee is allowed to work over 60 (I think) hours in a week. To make the companies stick to that, the government will come for them if any worker exceeds this number. Your employer has the responsibility to not let you exceed that, even across multiple jobs. That’s why you have to get permission for side hustles. There are other (not so pro worker) reasons for this, but that would go too far. Suffice to say that Lütke is German and this might be some thing he brought from Germany.



  • Yes, you can. Yet, that will not give you the interaction history (who liked what and such) and is way less convenient to do compared to “set up ActivityPub in own app real quick and have the whole fediverse send shit to me nicely formatted with interaction data ready to be used”. Legal issues arise in some spots when doing web-scraping-things like when you copy and use copyrighted imagery or happen to scrape stuff you weren’t allowed to see for some reason.

    All of those hurdles are out of the way automatically when you literally just use the inner workings of the service the data is from. No user can complain when Mate collects data sent to them via ActivityPub. That is literally what this protocol is used to do and the inner core of any application running it. If you don’t want your data to be sent to other instances around the world: Don’t use the protocol, right?

    They can get the data in many different ways, this is just the most convenient one.


  • Or they can sloppily slam a little ActivityPub into their new attack on Twitter, use the fediverse’s anti-giant-corp-shenanigans-image for advertising ("Have you heard of the super open and user-run and “good” and super data protective fediverse thing? You can have that through us and it will still feel like the big-corp-world you are used to but shomehow make you feel all anti-capitalism and warm inside! DOWNLOAD TODAY!), boost the availability of content from launch and then, as the cherry on top, eliminate the need for any real ressources that would be required to scrape the web and avoid any legal issues that come with that. ActivityPub will make the rest of the fediverse bring all that content to them free of charge. NO APIs, nothing to call, nothing to monitor. The ActivityPub component on their end just needs to be running and all that nice, juicy user data from people who did not want them to have their data will come rushing in just like that.


  • They could do classic web crawling, yes. But that is -super slow -easy to detect -easy to block -illegal for companies to do for the sake of selling shit in many places, since the users have not given you consent to use their data

    I think they try to pull the WhatsApp stunt here: when you sign up to WhatsApp, WhatsApp will send your whole contact list to Meta and update it on every change in order to “connect the phone numbers on your phone with WhatsApp users” (or so they say). They have structured this process in a way that they’re not at fault, but the user is. Since the user “sent” them the numbers, they are not the ones who need consent to use the data, the user needed that. Same with the fediverse. “No. We didn’t steal any data without consent! Our users should have had that consent when they subscribed to technology@lemmy.world! The data was pushed to us from there, we ain’t doin’ nothin’ wrong!”