We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

  • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
    12·
    2 years ago

    You can block whole communities as user. Personally, I’m not interested in Loli, but their users voted to allow it.

    • nude@kbin.socialOP
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yes, that isnt an issue.

      The issue is for those looking for a NSFW instance that dont want to associate with child porn

      • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        2 years ago

        You don’t have to join an instance to access their content, though. And if something pops up in your timeline if you select “All”, you can still block the whole community without losing access to others hosted on that server.

        • nude@kbin.socialOP
          3·
          2 years ago

          Yes, I am aware of this.

          The point of the thread though is to point out that the instance likely isn’t one that most people looking for a reddit NSFW alternative is one that they want to associate with, and to ask if there are any other alternatives yet

          • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            2 years ago

            You don’t associate with an instance by accessing content from it. You do by signing up there and accessing the fediverse as a whole on that account.

            • nude@kbin.socialOP
              3·
              2 years ago

              …and if the content there is loli, why would I want to go there?

              And yes, using an instance is associating with it.

              I don’t care if people want to jerk off to drawn pictures of kids.
              I’m pointing out that most people don’t, so its not a suitable instance for the majority of people, and asking if there are any alternatives yet.

              • GunnarRunnar@kbin.social
                6·
                2 years ago

                You’re absolutely correct. By using said instance you’re helping to build their community (to whatever degree) and by extension supporting the problematic part of the instance.

              • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
                4·
                2 years ago

                The moment you have your instance defederate from another one, you decide for all your users, instead of letting them decide for themselves. Why would you want to do that? We have just seen what this does, when beehaw defederated from world and sh.itjust.works. No thanks to that. I, as an adult, can think for myself.

          • CookieJarObserver@feddit.de
            1·
            2 years ago

            You won’t find a single big nsfw instance that blocks this stuff, they will all allow it. Just block these communitys and done.

    • BasicWhiteGirl@kbin.social
      1·
      2 years ago

      They voted? How? How many people are even in that community so far? Seems like the kind of thing to revisit as it grows.

          • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            2 years ago

            I honestly can’t tell you anything you couldn’t read up in the quoted original post of this thread. I read about it a few minutes ago, so you’re as well-informed about it as me.

            • asjmcguire@kbin.social
              5·
              2 years ago

              Yeah that’s what I meant - I didn’t see a single comment on the announcement post - that agreed with the mod. They are all saying it’s a stupid decision, many are threatening to report any clearly underage content - whether it’s drawn or not.
              The mod might have made the decision, but the users don’t agree with it at all.

              • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
                5·
                2 years ago

                I don’t care about all that, or this issue here in general. I’m only replying here, because I personally, as a fediverse user, want to be able to decide myself what I do and don’t want to see. If I have the means to curate the content visible to me, which I do, there’s no need to have someone think and act for me. See where I’m coming from?

      • nude@kbin.socialOP
        1·
        2 years ago

        I can’t answer because I was banned for saying allowing loli was a bad move, lol

        • Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
          3·
          2 years ago

          Ah so it isn’t so much that you don’t want to associate with it, it’s more that you got banned so can’t.

          Did you say that you thought it was a ‘bad move’ or did you go all guns blazing and start shouting about child porn?

          • nude@kbin.socialOP
            1·
            2 years ago

            No, I was banned after this post was made.

            I dont want to associate with that instance because its making announcements that its decided to allow nude depictions of underage children.

            I said its a dumb move to allow porn that features depictions of children. Being banned doesnt bother me, I only found out when I went to look to see if I could delete my account

      • Aeonx@kbin.social
        1·
        2 years ago

        It does not matter if a community has 2 people or 150 people, whoever is a member of the community at the time their voice matters. And they can revisit that as the community continues to grow.